Saturday, March 04, 2006

Masculinity

The Rev. Dr. Rod Rosenbladt came to the Advent a couple of years ago and gave a talk on the theology of the Reformers as it relates to fatherhood. He said many things, but the thing he said that most relates to this topic is the role of the man as being priest to his family. Rosenbladt said true masculinity is very subtle and absolving; lacking in bombast yet girded in strength. It has a lot to do with the wielder of power laying that power and justice down and showing mercy.

The book Iron John by the poet Robert Bly also talks about the subject of masculinity and laments the demise of male rites of initiation. He especially notes how Protestant ministers in particular have become quite effeminate. This I can certainly see in the sentimentality of modern, Western worship and emphasis on moral imperatives over human depravity and the forgiveness of sins.

Here is an excerpt from an interview of Harvey Mansfield in the Wall Street Journal. I am interested in his take because it seems to come from a conservative with little reference to God. The examples of manliness he gives seem to belie a certain "triumph of the will" Nietzsche-like social Darwinism. This may not be the case, but Schwarzenegger? That guy is all bombast and shows complete contempt for those he views as weak. It may be telling that Mansfield is considered an authority on Niccolo Machiavelli. The other examples are more acceptable, I think.

So, read the article and let me know how you define a kind of "strength of the will" masculinity over and against Christian masculinity. What do you think male initiation (in the truly Christian sense, i.e. not Rick Warren sentimentality - think Luther, Calvin, Augustine, Rosenbladt, etc.) looks like, to pull Bly into the conversation?

[Harvey] Mansfield's contention that women and men are not the same is now widely supported by social scientists. The core of his definition of manliness--"confidence in a risky situation"--is not so far from that of biologists and sociologists, who find men to be more abstract in their thinking and aggressive in their behavior than women, who are more contextual in their thinking and conciliatory in their behavior.

Science is good for confirming what "common sense" already tells us, Mr. Mansfield allows, but beyond that, he has little use for it: "Science is a particular enemy of manliness. Manliness asserts something you can't scientifically prove, namely the importance of human beings." Science simply sees people as just another part of the natural world. But what manly men assert, according to Mr. Mansfield, is that "they are important and that their party, their country, their society, their group, whatever it may be, is important." As examples, Mr. Mansfield offers Arnold Schwarzenegger (predictably, since he's no girly-man), Humphrey Bogart, Donald Rumsfeld and Margaret Thatcher--yes, women can occasionally be manly. (Both Clintons are manly in their own ways--Hillary is "formidable," while Bill is the "envy of vulgar men.")


Achilles, though, is Mr. Mansfield's model of a manly man. "He challenged his boss, Agamemnon, who had taken his girlfriend from him. He didn't so much make a complaint against him as to . . . say that what Agamemnon had done was the act of an inferior person, and that only true heroes, the men of virtue like Achilles, are fit to rule." In other words, Achilles raised the stakes and resolved to defend a cause larger than himself--the manly action par excellence.

Read the whole interview here.

9 Comments:

Blogger dpotter said...

David Browder...what a post! I would say that I define manliness as a cross between Morrissey, Christopher Columbus, and Martin Luther King. But it is easier to just give the right answer..."Jesus."

10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I fear that Mansfield is nothing more than another pop psychologist and self-help guru who is expressing, as you suggest, no more than another, and not very interesting, cover version of the triumph of the will.

The real desire which Mansfield is tarting up is for control, for building a god in one’s own image and then replacing the image with the real thing, oneself. His choices of models of “manliness” make the case that Mansfield is really talking about control, or the simulacrum of control.

Dear God, let me not be such a manly man. Let me die to my own “confidence in a risky situation” (the risky situation being the temporary and ever-wobbly seeming suspension of entropy which is my life) and let me be born anew to seek placement of all my confidence in you.
Walter

12:29 PM  
Blogger David Browder said...

It is interesting how this "strength of the will" masculinity corresponds with evolutionary atheism and no-holds-barred capitalism. The strength of the strong.

Nietzsche is truly the prince of these times. The ironic fact of all of this is how Paul, Augustine, and Luther are proved correct on human bondage.

Did you see how the new Franciscan Catholic bishop in Boston sold the bishop's mansion for $85MM and moved in to a two-room cell in a convent? That's the Christian ideal of masculinity.

5:22 PM  
Blogger David Browder said...

Scratch "ideal." That's a form of Christian masculinity.

5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must add that today, we saw secular gospel which does bear on David’s excellent blog entry, above. I call the movie Sixteen Blocks gospel with no sense of irony. For each of the two lead characters, the “free” will was not victorious but overcome by something alien to itself and the sinful heart which ordinarily stands behind the curtain pulling the strings. In each case, thesis four of the Heidelberg Disputation, “Although the works of God are always unattractive and appear evil, they are nevertheless eternal merits” is well enough illustrated so that I am going to use it in my stealth presentation of the Disputation at Advent Sunday.

Of course, this is a completely secular movie, so God is garbed in full burkha. There is, though, a veiled (couldn’t resist saying that) reference to some sort of force which preordains things. Rather than ruin the film for anyone who might watch it, I won’t dwell on other paragospel which pops up here and there except to note that if a secular eye sees as clearly as a secular eye can, then it is not the innocent who is sacrificed for the guilty, but the guilty. Our prideful hearts just won’t accept innocent sacrifice unless electroshocked with megavolts of grace.
Walter
Walter

7:43 PM  
Blogger David Browder said...

Outstanding, Walter. I will have to go see it.

Have you seen Madea's Family Reunion yet? How does that movie relate to this thread?

9:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw it and loved it. I couldn’t understand why your dean would recommend something the critics hated so much. But, it was pretty quickly apparent that this movie showed the gall to have a character say, “I am a Christian,” and (sensitive readers, please cover your eyes) *didn’t play it for laughs*. Also, can you imagine a mainstream cinematic work in the twenty-first century which advocates abstinence outside marriage? It is good for laughs to go to the Tomatometer and read the critics’ euphemisms for “too Christian.”

Having said that, the work was shot through with Arminianism, at least to my eye. I think if one were to interview Tyler Perry, he would happily admit to believing in free will and in the necessity of accepting Christ as a choice. Perhaps I misremember, though. What do you think?

BTW, if you look at the Google member ratings of films, Madea has none, and no way to enter an opinion. I wonder why?
Walter

10:52 PM  
Blogger Mike Demmon said...

Bly is quoted often in Wild at Heart by John Eldredge. I must pick up Iron John to see directly the connections.

4:34 PM  
Blogger David Browder said...

Walter, I would hazard a guess that the majority of Southern black Christians tend Arminian just like the whites.

The powerful aspect of the Southern black Christian experience is their superior exposure to the theology of the cross. Fom the time they were sold into slavery to the present time, they have been on the low rung.

I do think introducing the theology of the Reformation would resonate powerfully.

Mike, Iron John is a great read, but prepare yourself for some less than complimentary (much deserved, in my opinion) comments about Christianity, especially Protestant.

4:41 PM  

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